[Ch3] Kluen Cheevit (Lakorn Thai) Mark Prin/Yaya Urassaya

Vimalee

Live Love Laugh
I just wanted to say congratulations to both Kim and Yaya for making this far in ET and for being good friends.
 
Personally, I'm very glad and proud of Yaya for her many accomplishments she has achieved at her age: work, school, and life wise.
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
It was WRONG to even start comparing the actresses in the FIRST PLACE to begin with. Please EXIT here & support your favorite actress in their thread & keep your JUDGMENTAL comments on the actress you don't favor out of this thread. How on EARTH & when did this thread become a thread that has nonsense stuff, non related stuff about who is more professional, who acts better, who could act many roles, who is more gorgeous, who has more fans <----- these are all one's own judgement, opinions, perspective.

Too early to tell about this lakorn. But SERIOUSLY, enough with these comparisons. Enough is Enough!! Thank you for reading!
 

bubbles8

sarNie Adult
Step said:
I was missing in this thread lol
Thank you again adsd for supporting Kim :)
 
Ok, I like Yaya and Kim both but I dont  think they should act together in a lakorn especially with Mark in it. Leads to fan wars.
From what I read in this thread about some comments on professionalism, I think Kim is more professional. Yes Kim is more professional than Yaya.
 
1.Kim does not have problem to work with other stars other than Mark while Yaya has serious problems working with other stars but Nadech. 
2.Kim can pull of any roles. In RP, Kim played a fierce, spoilt brat. She would play even the Nang Rai while Yaya has only played a sweet, innocent kind of roles. May be she is scared to experiment.
3. Yaya is working with James Ji in NNS but I have never seen her being comfortable or easy with him. Yaya maintains distance from him as if Nadech will break up with her because of the closeness she has. Man, you're n actor and there is nothing wrong if you guys tease each other or play pranks or even support each other.
4. Yaya is popular but Kim is better in acting. Ann casted her in her 3rd lakorns, Acted with Ananda and everybody praises her for acting skills.
5. Honestly, Kim is more famous with international fans. We just love her.
6. Now the beauty. Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder but isn't it true that Kim is GORGEOUS?!!
 
List goes on. I like both but when it comes to professionalism, Kim wins.
 
I never knew these points were definitive of professionalism, but anyways
 
 
1. Ya sure has serious problems with with other guys which was evident with P'Aum, P'Por (with DR getting double digit ratings), P'Rome (where Ya's character was praised and caught the eyes of many producers), Mark (with TD giving both Mark and Ya their highest ratings thus far), and more serious problems working with Mike, Mario, March, Nickhun etc for non-lakorn works
2. Does a fierce and spoilt brat equals to a Nang Rai now (guess i need to double check on my definition of nang rai). And just because one plays the sweeet innocent roles, does that equate to having less work ethics than those that play a nang rai, that would mean 80% of the industry's nek's professionalism is been questioned?
3. And you are expected to feel comfortable with everyone in the industry?  And for some lil info Ya and JJ do tease each other or play pranks or even support each other, just some ppl like to emphasise the awkwardness to make it awkward for others. Lol afraid of Na dumping her if Ya gets close with JJ hahha she's that insecure about herself and their relationship
4. Ann also casted Mark in 2 of her lakorns, does that also mean Mark is a better actor Nadech or other veterans out there? Producers like P'Mam, P'Ja, Medtha, Khun Pin and many other producers are more than willing with Ya.  On a side not, from the beginning of Ya's career, Ananda has expressed he adored Ya and would like to work with her but doesnt want to bring her to his dark side lol 
5. And how is this international fandom measured again, through Instagram?
6. I always say to a friend, that out of the girls from the Lom Gang, Ya is least attractive/pretty and with fashion like the goof, she is nowhere near the other 3 pretty girls, but I didnt know now that beauty defines professionalism now, guess I need to double on all my definition of things
 
I dont think a fan war  is that easily triggered, and it's always nice to have healthy debate and comparison but when people feel the need to jab and downgrade someone's professionalism to put their respective idol on a higher pedestal than others, that is when things cross the boundaries. And this will be my last comment on this topic and this lakorn because the irony from some people in here is just too much for me to handle  :bhehe:. 
 

jeedlove

sarNie Hatchling
Since people keep insisting being off topic, 
 
1. Yaya has never had any problems working with anyone. She's always very kind and playful with all her co-stars whether it's Por, Aum, Rome, Mark and James. She's even close with all the supporting casts for all her lakorns. If Yaya was such a difficult person to deal with, James J wouldn't come out to say he's very honoured to pair with Yaya in NNS and furthermore, says she's the ultimate perfect girl. He doesn't even praise his koo jin, Bella to that extent. Not only that but Yaya was constantly injured in 2014 but she never skipped work, not once. Is that considered unprofessional? This is probably the only thing I'll say that really does relate to this thread but even Mark says Yaya is a professional and he would love to work with her again because he felt like he didn't do very well in Tawan Deurd. Lucky for him, his wish is currently in the process of being granted. It's unfortunate however that people can't express the same enthusiasm as him in this potential thread of their reunion. 
 
2. Anyone who is an avid follow of Yaya or understands how the industry works will know that Channel 3 is the one who decides on Yaya's works. Despite Yaya's popularity, she isn't a selective or picky person to pick and decide which lakorns she'll play in. She just fulfils her duties that the elders entrust her with. If Yaya is seen as not wanting to experiment, I will say it's more like Channel 3 elders are the ones who purposely want her to maintain a certain image. If Yaya became snobby, ignorant and refused to work according to the elders, I would say she's unprofessional but that's not even the case.
 
3. Who says Yaya is keeping a distance from JJ? If anyone has watched the BTS of NNS, those two are always teasing and pranking each other. If Yaya was that uncomfortable with JJ, she wouldn't let him touch her face, apply her makeup for her, touch her waist, or even let him put his face touch hers. 
 
4. Acting is subjective. We all have different definitions and opinions on what good acting is. There's a reason why there are hundreds of actresses in this industry. If we all agreed on the same thing, we'd be only watching a few people on screen. Ananda even said that he admires Yaya and indirectly said he wanst to work with her. He revealed in an old interview that he didn't get to work with the actress he wanted in Seur. Connect the dots. Anne originally wanted to cast her in PCKK but Yaya's queue was already too full. I don't even have to bother even listing how many veterans actors and professionals in the industry who compliment not just Yaya's acting abilities but her personality and work ethics. If Yaya was that bad and unprofessional as people make her to be, then those who had nothing but full of praises for her would be out of their minds. 
 
5. Yaya has gained a group of loyal and supportive fans on AF since 2010. Those members are still active today. I can't say the same for other groups who just started joining the forum more recently. The RFTD thread has what? over 1000 pages!? Her International forum has close to 1000 members, the biggest Interntional fandom thus far. She has fans all around the globe. Even the daughter of the prime minister of Cambodia has been constantly wanting to bring Yaya to Cambodia but there hasn't been an appropriate time. I don't know nor do I care who is more popular amongst which group of fans but there's no doubt, Yaya is well loved in the International world. Another thing to mention is that never, never ever ever do you find any Yaya fans mentioning other actresses in Yaya's lakorns threads for comparisons. You never see them bringing down another actress in Yaya's lakorns threads. You never see them questioning another actresses work ethics or professionalism. Why? Because all they care about is Yaya. They don't need to compare her to another actress to see her in a better light. They don't need to compare her to another present to boost their self esteem. They're THAT confident and secure about Yaya and their loyalties towards her. They're respectful enough to not even care or bother to mention anyone else because Yaya is all that matters to them. Instead, it's ALWAYS another actresses' FC who mentions Yaya in threads that are unrelated to her. Actually, it's 2 particular actresses FC who like to do that all the time. I don't need to lists names or be specific, the proof is right in the threads on this forum. 
 
6. Again, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. However I want to stress how important inner beauty is, if anything it's even more important than physical appearance. You can be the most beautiful girl but if you have an ugly personality, that's not going to make you more attractive. Only shallow people would care and stress so much on looks. 
 
If people really want to make a comparison, at least get the facts straight and be knowledgable enough to give a respectful and insightful comparison. If you don't even follow Yaya, how would you know how her work is being managed or what her work ethics are like to begin with? Making an assumption based on prejudice and biases is not the same as making a respectful comment or providing reasonable facts. If you don't want people attacking you, don't attack others. If you want others to respect you and your idol and your comments, you need to reciprocate that back or else, you can't expect anything out of nowhere. You want to be bias? Go ahead but that doesn't mean it's necessary to put down other people unless you're that negative and miserable of a person. How did this comparison get started? Who accused who saying what!? Go back and read carefully while in the mean time, look at definition of "accusation". I don't mind a healthy debate, but this ain't even a debate lol. I'm not even a big fan of Yaya's but I follow up with this industry and know enough about her to know that the comments directed towards her are laughable. Nothing annoys me more than people making up things without providing sources while acting like their judgements are real facts that should acknowledged by everyone.
 
A last note about professionalism:
 
IHMO, In my perspective, a professional actress is an actress who acts accordingly to how the director and producer wants her to act. A professional actress is someone who is never whiny and is willing to act according to the script, even if the director says they don't have to do it. A professional actress is someone who always comes prepared to set and is willing to make adjustments to improve for the better. A professional is someone who is respectful of everyone on the working set, doesn't flirt around, cheat, socializes on IG 24/7 etc. A professional actress is someone who relies on their own talent to gain working opportunities, not depending on connections or relationships with producers or directors to have a continuous work. Is Yaya a professional actress? That's up to you to decide but to imply that she's unprofessional and lacks good work ethics, lol. Some of her later lakorns haven't been her best but that just means she has some limitations on what she can do based on lack of experience and lack of workshops. Acting is about learning about yourself and improving as you go along while bringing happiness to the viewers. So far, I think she's making a good effort to accomplish that. 
 

bubbles8

sarNie Adult
Ok I lied, this will be my last post keke. Just want to jump in to thank those who are mature enough to speak in a mutual and respectable way, really appreciate it ja!
 
woah didn't know the daughter of the prime minister of cambodia really wants to see ya, it's such an honour, hopefully ya will get the chance to meet her one day
 

Step

Mrs James Ma
That was just my opinion and not a fan war. My opinion was just a reply to previous comments.
 
bubbles8 said:
 
I dont think a fan war  is that easily triggered, and it's always nice to have healthy debate and comparison but when people feel the need to jab and downgrade someone's professionalism to put their respective idol on a higher pedestal than others, that is when things cross the boundaries. And this will be my last comment on this topic and this lakorn because the irony from some people in here is just too much for me to handle  :bhehe:. 
 
Yaya herself has said that she's comfortable working with Nadeh ONLY. As a presenter, Yaya has backed out of many ads without extending her contract when the companies roped in other male actor to along with Yaya.
 
WOW! I never knew that socialising on IG 24/7 is unprofessional?!!   :scratchhead2:
jeedlove said:
A professional actress is someone who always comes prepared to set and is willing to make adjustments to improve for the better. A professional is someone who is respectful of everyone on the working set, doesn't flirt around, cheat, socializes on IG 24/7 etc.
 
I can not degrade Yaya or Kim bcos I like them both. No more, no less. I felt sorry for Kim when I read the previous comments. 
I do not understand why the hell people talk about Kim's relationship with producer???? People need to STOP behaving as if they never dated anybody or never broke up in their life or they hook onto the same person through out their life. She does NOT need a koo jin like her other contemporaries. Just like how Anne moulded Kim, Yaya also was moulded from the directors. Moreover my comment was a reply to the previous comments. For me it's not a fan war but just my opinion. So no need to get worked up.
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
If you could provide evidence that Yaya did said that she is comfortable working with Nadech ONLY and not with other actors then your words are reliable or else they are Nonsense!
 
Step said:
Yaya herself has said that she's comfortable working with Nadeh ONLY. As a presenter, Yaya has backed out of many ads without extending her contract when the companies roped in other male actor to along with Yaya.
 

ch3eks

sarNie Hatchling
Bubbles8, Yes, Hun Mana (the daughter of prime minister of Cambodia) wanted to actually invite Yaya to the grand opening of ETV, a new TV channel of hers but Yaya's queue was packed so she got Mai Davika and Dome Pakorn instead. It is an honour and I hope Yaya has the opportunity to visit there one day. She has many fans there. If you go to Cambodia, you'll see her pictures everywhere, on the billboards, at the mall, at the salons etc. Every Cambodian/Khmer celebrity follows her on IG too. There's one Khmer singer who is considered to be the most popular female vocalists of this generation named Meas Sok Sophea and Yaya happens to be her favorite Thai actress. There's plenty of love for her in the neighbouring country ^^ 
 

Anonymous<3

sarNie Oldmaid
Just putting it out there. Being a professional has nothing to do with how one behaves in their personal life. If that were the case, actors like Mark wouldn't be receiving so much work still after his scandal with Mint. Actors are human too. They make mistakes just like all of us do. Some people are just better at hiding their bad side than others. No one is perfect. We all sin. Shall I continue? And the fact that Kim is Yaya's best friend out of ALL the celebrities Yaya knows and is friends with...has to either mean that Yaya is not as innocent as everyone believes she is, or that Kim is not as bad as some people are portraying her to be.
 
Anne herself has complimented Kim numerous times on how professional and talented she is. She even specifically said that Kim reminds her of herself and that if anyone is going to take her place in the future, it's Kim. If Kim were unprofessional and untalented, Anne wouldn't have casted her in three of her produced lakorns back to back. In addition, Anne wouldn't have chosen her as the very first younger generation actress to star alongside her in a lakorn. Kim has received tons of praise from her costars, colleagues, directors and producers as well. Yaya may have been Anne's first choice for PCKK, but Kim is the only younger generation actress that Anne has continued to cast in her productions.
 
In terms of popularity, Yaya is definitely more popular...and yes, even internationally too. That's no surprise. She's fresh, sweet and youthful. That's the number one most marketable image nowadays, especially when it comes to attracting younger and impressionable viewers. A comparison that can be made is Selena Gomez. That being said, Kim has ALSO gained her own large fanbase from all over the world full of loyal fans who've supported her since the very beginning. One can't deny her level of popularity either. Many singers, actors and figures in the industry have also publicly expressed their admiration for Kim. Furthermore, many Thai celebrities who have never even worked with Kim before follow her on IG. I don't understand why it matters if some of Kim's fans just joined this forum recently or if they've always been users since the beginning of her career. How does that prove or discredit anything?! There could be many reasons that contribute to that. In my case, I've been an on and off silent reader on this forum since 2006, and it wasn't until last year when I came back to Thai lakorns and discovered Kim that I created this account. I knew about Kim before I even knew about Yaya. That in no way proves that Kim is better than Yaya, or that Yaya is better than Kim.
 
I have never heard one person come out and say that Kim was disrespectful towards them, whiny, or unwilling to act according to the script. If anything, all I've ever heard about Kim is how she is always respectful towards everyone on the set, is a hard worker, is skilled and continuously improving, is friendly, etc. Like Yaya, Kim is just as hard of a worker. Despite lack of sleep, Kim pushes herself to act to the point of overworking her body and even recently ending up in the hospital due to exhaustion. And despite her sickness, she still went to work the following day to film Nang Rai Tee Ruk. In BTS pictures, Kim was visibly weak yet she still pulled through to finish filming. Why? Because she's a professional. In addition, Kim maintains GREAT relationships with all of her supporting actors in her lakorns as well, JUST like Yaya does.
 
Socializing 24/7 on IG? Who? Kim? First of all, how would any outsider like us know how often Kim socializes on her IG? I follow Kim myself and if anything, I only see updates from her once or twice a week, which is more or less just as much as Yaya updates hers. Sometimes I see Kim liking pictures and replying to photos a few times a day. But it's NEVER 24/7 like some people are claiming. If Kim was THAT caught up with her social life and her phone to the point of not focusing on her work (not acting, practicing her lines, etc.) I'm sure someone would have come out and complained about it by now. Instead, the complete opposite has happened. All her directors, producers, costars and everyone who's worked with her currently and in the past have done nothing but praise her. They've praised her for being respectful, hard working and a joy to work with.
 
Kim may have dated a producer at one point in her career, but to imply that she has no talent or wouldn't have made it this far without him is taking it too far. As a follower of Kim, you'd know that Kim in fact didn't rise to stardom until her most recent works. As a matter of fact, the lakorns she's most known for weren't even with Makers Production. In my honest opinion, Kim may have had continuous work with Makers, but all her lakorns with them did absolutely nothing for her. All her roles were so bland and lifeless. With roles like that, one would've never predicted that she'd become one of the greatest and sought after actresses of her generation. YET, THE greatest actress of all time, THE Anne Thongprasom, saw Kim's potential. If Kim was untalented and only relying on her relationship with Jett to get work, she would've never been casted in THREE of Anne's produced lakorns back to back. She would've never been able to land one of the leading roles in THE MOST anticipated mafia series directed and produced by award winning actor, Off Pongpat. If Kim were untalented and only using her connections to directors and producers, she would've never been able to act alongside acclaimed film actor Ananda Everingham. Kim's only connections to anyone when she was dating Jett was to him and his company. Now that they've broken up, if Kim were still only depending on her "connections" instead of using her real talent to find success, we'd know. Makers most likely won't cast Kim in any of their lakorns anymore. So let's see if Kim will still be able to find success on her own with one big lakorn production eliminated. So far, she seems to be going down the right path. With time, she'll prove her unbelievers wrong.
 
With all of this said, I have absolutely no problem with Mark and Yaya working together. If Kim wasn't linked to this lakorn in the first place as being one of the desired leads, I know that most of Kim's fans (including myself) wouldn't have commented here. Mark and Yaya's first lakorn together was the highest rating they received. Nadech and Kim's lakorn together was ALSO the highest rating they received. Could that mean something? Possibly. Perhaps Mark and Yaya are a better match, and Nadech and Kim are more compatible. It could've also been the good script and production. Regardless, in no way am I bitter or upset that Mark and Yaya are being paired up in here. I think it's good, since it seems that people liked their pairing in TD. I also hope that Nadech and Kim will get the chance to work together again soon, since a lot of people enjoyed them in RP. In fact, the director even promised a reunion of the two. As a fan of Kim, I don't expect her to rely on Mark as a koo jin. I know that she's completely capable of making it on her own. And that has been proven through her continuous improvement on her acting, her versatility to act in different roles and her great chemistry with her costars.
 
For the record, I've seen both Kim AND Yaya fans who've attacked the other's favorite actress. It's not just always or mainly Kim's fans who do it. As a Kim fan myself, I've seen plenty of Yaya's fans who've attacked and brought down Kim. One example was when Kim and Nadech paired up for RP. Although that lakorn had nothing to do with Yaya, her fans still came and attacked Kim on that thread. If anything, Kim had received more hate from Yaya's fans at that time versus some of the negativity Yaya is receiving now for pairing up with Mark.
 
Ananda did say at first that he didn't get to work with the actress he wanted to in Tiger (he was referring to Yaya, and I was actually the one who'd pointed that out in the mafia series thread). But that was BEFORE he got to work with Kim. If you've followed Tiger, you'd know that on the very first day of Ananda meeting Kim, he praised her saying that she made him very nervous because of her "aura". He said that his "heart was beating so fast" that all he could think of doing was to joke around with her. Kim even stated herself that she was surprised at how Ananda was so playful and talkative to her since from what she'd heard, he was very quiet and kept to himself. With Kim, he was clearly different. Also, throughout the filming of Tiger, Ananda and Kim have gotten very close. There were even dating rumors of them at one point. I don't think Ananda followed Kim on IG before either, but ever since filming Tiger they've been following one another. And honestly, Ananda seems a lot more comfortable with Kim than he is with Yaya. That's the power of Kim. In the beginning Ananda might have wanted to work with Yaya, but it was Kim who Khun Off selected for him. He believed that Kim's skills would go well with Ananda's, and that they were going to have great chemistry together. In other words, Khun Off thought that Kim was suitable, talented and compatible to act with Ananda. He further expressed that he finds them cute together.
 
In conclusion, because of this opportunity that Ananda probably would've never thought of, Ananda and Kim have become great friends. I'm inclined to think that Ananda likes Kim also. But what really matters is that he's also expressed the same admiration, if not more, for Kim as he did for Yaya. I'm sure if Ananda was offered another opportunity to work with Kim again, he'd most definitely accept it. If Kim was so dislikable, had an ugly personality, etc., Ananda obviously wouldn't have opened up to her so easily when it was well known that he was a quiet and closed off guy. Furthermore, they would've never maintained their friendship after filming, and Ananda would've never spoken so highly of Kim, even going as far as to praise her for her acting and saying that she even helped him improve on his acting. That, coming from a skilled veteran actor.
 
I favor Kim as the actress, but I also like Yaya because I find her adorable. Kim and Yaya are BOTH undoubtedly great, lovable and beautiful in their own ways. Otherwise, they wouldn't have such huge fanclubs and so many directors and producers wanting them to be in their lakorns. In terms of who takes on more challenging roles, I do believe that Kim does. HOWEVER, I don't blame Yaya for taking on repetitious sweet and innocent roles either. That most likely is the fault of her handlers who want her to maintain the sweetheart image. I only agreed with aiyaja on her post that if Kim and Yaya were both casted in here as the director had wished, Kim would most likely have taken on the rai or second nang'ek role because of the fact that she has played second before (ABO) and a tough and fierce character (RP). Other than that, I think that BOTH girls are EQUALLY professional and beautiful, both inwardly and outwardly.
 
If one is going to put down Kim or make false claims about her, they should also get their facts straight. There's more than enough evidence out there to support the statements that I've made about Kim.
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
One's professionalism & personal life as matter of fact in my opinions do go hand in hand. When you apply for a job, what does your employer ask or often ask for or need: a resume, letters of recommendations, lists of people (non family member) that they may call to ask about you, a background check, drug testing, your past employers' phone numbers & etc. Why do they need these things? Because these somewhat enable them to know you on a personal and professional levels. The ways one was raised and lives affect the ways they act & work!
 
Being a professional has lots to do with how one behaves in their personal life. Many examples, for instance, if one is an alcoholic, most likely one day he/she will show up to work drunk! Another instance, if one has no respect for elders, bad manners, no good values, bad attitude, bad personality then most likely they will bring these negativities to work. It is just appalling to me if the employer of this person would defend him or her because/as long as she/he shows up for work & listens to orders. Should there be red flags popping up? What if one day this employee will give them and other employees a taste of his/her negativity? Note - treat people the way you want to be treated.
 
Who you are or How you are in your personal life do matter & it affect your professionalism (how you function/work), your behaviors & how people around you (family, friends, employer, strangers, etc) perceive you. Who you are or How you are in your personal life do matter greatly if you are a public figure. You would want to be scandalous free, you would want to maintain your wholesome image, you would want to show people the good sides of you, you want people to know who you are & how you are on a personal level via IGs, etc. This is a good way for you to gain fans & potential employers, plus being a role model.
 
Yes, given that everyone sins, people have both bad & good sides to them. We all have flaws, we are all imperfect. The magnitude and the impacts of your sins do matter. What important are that you learn from them, repent, ask for forgiveness, and vow not to repeat them again.
 
Ok let not compare who got/gets more negativities currently in here or outside of this thread in the past because I am sure Yaya fans (including me) saw and see other actresses' fans commenting negativities in here or outside of this thread currently or in the past on Yaya too & just that in here we did not compare (I did not see any comparison made).  
 
Ok last thing I want to say is that I thought this Tik lady was Tik the actor :loool:.
 

Anonymous<3

sarNie Oldmaid
It was brought up that Kim's fans apparently attack Yaya and her fans more. I only made the comparison with RP as one of the examples in the past to prove that in fact, Yaya's fans have also bashed Kim just as much as Kim's fans have bashed Yaya. As a Kim fan, I'm not denying that I've seen some of her fans attack Yaya. I was only making the point to prove that I've seen an equal amount of bashing from Yaya's fans towards Kim and her fans as well.
 
In life, one is going to encounter problems with others (family members, friends, etc.) no matter how "good" of a person that person may be. Having issues with certain people like every other normal person does, doesn't make you any less professional than someone who appears to have perfect relationships with everyone. There's no such thing as perfect relationships, friendships, people, etc.
 
Like I said, if Kim was unprofessional and hard to get along with, would respected and high profile figures in the industry be praising her for her great work ethics, professionalism, and friendly and cute personality? Both Kim and Yaya have been praised for all of the above...not just Yaya, not just Kim. I haven't heard one person say that Kim has bad manners, a bad attitude and no manners. Again, if we're talking about rumors, then both girls have had rumors about not getting along with their costars and others. I won't believe it until I see it though. Kim was recently accused of being disruptive and uncooperative on the set of Tiger. Yet, Khun Off, the director for it, came out and dismissed it himself. He praised Kim, saying that she always came on time, was well prepared, worked with no problems and that he didn't know how the rumors had surfaced. He added that these rumors come from people who want to ruin others' reputations and that we shouldn't always believe them, because most of the time, they're untrue.
 
It amuses me how over the years people have tried to discredit Anne whenever she's spoken highly of Kim. As if they themselves know Kim better than the person who's worked with her and has been close to her for years. People are willing to believe Anne when it comes to everything else. But when it comes to her praising Kim, people make all the excuses in the world saying that she's too blinded by her bias, etc. Okay...because you as a complete outsider must know more about Kim than Anne because of what you've seen, read and heard about her in the news... :rolleyes1: If Kim was so unprofessional, untalented, had bad manners, no values, etc., it must mean that Anne and Yaya are all of those things too right? It takes one to know one. Kim is Yaya's best friend while Anne clearly adores Kim and has referred to her as a younger sister. If Anne and Yaya are as great as they appear, then the fact that Kim is one of the closest people to them must mean that Kim is not as bad of a person as some people are portraying her to be.
 
Anne and Kim are two of the actresses that I admire the most and follow. I love Yaya too because of her adorable personality. We needn't discuss this topic any further because I'm not trying to put Yaya down, nor am I trying to prove that Kim is better or more professional than Yaya. In terms of acting, it's all about preference. Kim is my favorite actress, but I can also appreciate Yaya as a person. Both girls are beautiful. Yaya is cute/pretty in my view, while Kim is gorgeous/beautiful. Everyone possesses a different kind of beauty. None is better than the other. Let's just leave it at that.
 

Step

Mrs James Ma
Even recently Yaya back out from Uniqlo. Also Yaya prefers to act single but if it's Nadech she said she has no problem with him as she is very comfortable with Nadech but with others she is not that comfortable. As Yaya's fan you should know it better.
Ms.Zoe said:
If you could provide evidence that Yaya did said that she is comfortable working with Nadech ONLY and not with other actors then your words are reliable or else they are Nonsense!
 
 

Step

Mrs James Ma
Thank you Anonymous95 for your post. It's exactly what I wanted to say.
 
Anonymous95 said:
Just putting it out there. Being a professional has nothing to do with how one behaves in their personal life. If that were the case, actors like Mark wouldn't be receiving so much work still after his scandal with Mint. Actors are human too. They make mistakes just like all of us do. Some people are just better at hiding their bad side than others. No one is perfect. We all sin. Shall I continue? And the fact that Kim is Yaya's best friend out of ALL the celebrities Yaya knows and is friends with...has to either mean that Yaya is not as innocent as everyone thinks she is, or that Kim is not as bad as some people perceive her to be.
 
Anne herself has complimented Kim numerous times on how professional and talented she is. She even specifically said that Kim reminds her of herself and that if anyone is going to take her place in the future, it's Kim. If Kim were unprofessional and untalented, Anne wouldn't have casted her in three of her produced lakorns back to back. In addition, Anne wouldn't have chosen her as the very first younger generation actress to star alongside her in a lakorn. Kim has received tons of praise from her costars, colleagues, directors and producers as well.
 
In terms of popularity, Yaya is definitely more popular...even internationally. But Kim has also gained her own large fanbase from all over the world full of loyal fans who've supported her since the very beginning. I don't understand why it matters if some of Kim's fans just joined this forum recently. How does that prove or discredit anything? There are many reasons that could contribute to that. In my case, I've been an on and off silent reader since 2006. And I didn't create an account until just last year, which was when I'd discovered Kim in TH. I knew about Kim before I even knew about Yaya. Does that mean Kim is better than Yaya, or that Yaya is better than Kim? No.
 
Also, I have never heard one person who has come out to say that Kim was disrespectful towards them, the staff, or other actors. All I've heard is how Kim is always respectful towards everyone, is a hard worker, is skilled at what she does, is friendly, etc. And yes, despite being injured on set, Yaya did push herself to finish filming. And like Yaya, Kim is just as hard of a worker. Despite lack of sleep, Kim pushed herself to act to the point of overworking her body and ending up in the hospital due to exhaustion.
 
Personally, I have no problem with Mark and Yaya working together. If Kim wasn't linked to this lakorn in the first place as one of the leads, I know that most of Kim's fans (including myself) wouldn't have commented. Mark and Yaya's first lakorn together was the highest rating they received. Nadech and Kim's lakorn together was ALSO the highest rating they received. Could that mean something? Possibly. Perhaps Mark and Yaya work better together, and Nadech and Kim are a better match. Regardless, I think it's good that Mark and Yaya are being paired up again, since it seems that some people liked their pairing in TD. I also hope that Nadech and Kim get the chance to work together again soon too, since a lot of people enjoyed them in RP. In fact, the director even promised a reunion of the two.
 
And for the record, I've seen both Kim AND Yaya fans who've attacked the other's favorite actress. It's not just always or mainly Kim's fans who do it. As a Kim fan myself, I've seen plenty of Yaya's fans attack and bring down Kim. One example was when Kim and Nadech paired up for RP. Even though that lakorn had nothing to do with Yaya, her fans still came and attacked Kim on the thread, on youtube videos, etc., just because they were jealous of Kim pairing up with Nadech. If anything, Kim had received more hate from Yaya's fans at that time versus some of the negativity Yaya is receiving now for pairing up with Mark. Again, for me, I don't mind at all that Mark and Yaya are pairing up. As a fan of Kim, I don't expect her to rely on Mark as a koo jin. I know she's completely capable of making it on her own.
 
Another thing, Ananda did say at first that he didn't get to work with the actress he wanted to in Tiger (he was referring to Yaya, and I was actually the one who'd pointed that out in the mafia series thread). But that was BEFORE he got to work with Kim. If you've followed Tiger, you'd know that on the very first day of Ananda meeting Kim, he praised her and said that she made him very nervous because of her "aura". He said that his "heart was beating so fast" that all he could think of doing was to joke around with her. Kim even said that she was surprised at how Ananda was able to be so open and talkative to her since from what she'd heard, he was a very quiet and kept to himself kind of guy. But with Kim, he was different. Also, throughout the filming of TIger, Ananda and Kim had become very close. I don't think Ananda followed Kim on IG before, but ever since working with her, he's been following her. And honestly, he seems a lot closer and more comfortable with Kim versus when he's with Yaya. And to put it in reverse, Ananda might have wanted to work with Yaya at first, but in the end, Kim was the one Khun Off chose for Ananda instead. His reasoning was because he'd predicted that Kim and Ananda were going to have great chemistry. He even expressed that he finds them cute together.
 
I favor Kim as an actress, but I also like Yaya because I find her adorable. They're obviously both great, lovable and beautiful (appearance and personality wise) individuals. Otherwise, they wouldn't have such huge fanclubs and so many directors/producers wanting them to be in their lakorns.
 
 
I'm not saying Yaya is better than Kim or Kim is better than Yaya. But when I read the posts here in page 1 & 2 I could not stop myself but to comment in support of Kim as Kim always ends up getting bashed by others. As Anonymous said, I would not have come here if Kim was not linked in this lakorn.
Fr those who think I am anti Yaya, I've watched Yaya's lakorns with Nadech and I am waiting for NNS as it's the first time she is paired with JJ. I like her acting also. But I dont understand why people have to hate Kim?? One of the comments here was "It's always the other actors fans bash Yaya". That is completely wrong. As for what I've seen, it's always Yaya's fans bring up the issue. But being a fan of both (Kimmy is my first priority, though) it's hard for me to tackle those crazy people.
I'm happy that Kim is no more a part of this lakorn as she would only end up getting bashed for no reason or maybe for jealousy!
 
P.S. Yadech's fans does not like Kim. And some dont like Patricia either. Is it because Nadech looks good with both Kim and Patricia equally? Is it because of the insecurity?
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
First, I don't like your words "you should know it better." Maybe, I am sensitive here but it sounds like you are doubting or questioning my knowledge of Y's news. Anyways, these are your words, I would like to see evidences (news, etc). But again news are sometimes unreliable as well.

Step said:
Even recently Yaya back out from Uniqlo. Also Yaya prefers to act single but if it's Nadech she said she has no problem with him as she is very comfortable with Nadech but with others she is not that comfortable. As Yaya's fan you should know it better.
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
I'm so confused by reading all of your posts, especially this one!

Step said:
Thank you Anonymous95 for your post. It's exactly what I wanted to say.
 

 
 
I'm not saying Yaya is better than Kim or Kim is better than Yaya. But when I read the posts here in page 1 & 2 I could not stop myself but to comment in support of Kim as Kim always ends up getting bashed by others. As Anonymous said, I would not have come here if Kim was not linked in this lakorn.
Fr those who think I am anti Yaya, I've watched Yaya's lakorns with Nadech and I am waiting for NNS as it's the first time she is paired with JJ. I like her acting also. But I dont understand why people have to hate Kim?? One of the comments here was "It's always the other actors fans bash Yaya". That is completely wrong. As for what I've seen, it's always Yaya's fan brings up the issue. But being a fan of both (Kimmy is my first priority, though) it's hard for me to tackle those crazy people.
I'm happy that Kim is no more a part of this lakorn as she would only end up getting bashed for no reason or maybe for jealousy!
 
P.S. Yadech's fans does not like Kim. And some dont like Patricia either. Is it because Nadech looks good with both Kim and Patricia equally? Is it because of the insecurity?
 

Step

Mrs James Ma
You want to see the news and you dont wanna believe it also. Does not make any sense to me as you will not believe. If you want search in sugar daily. They just translate from Thai to Eng. You can rely on that. And I'm sorry for that words. I did not question you or doubt you. But I thought you knew as you follow Yaya.
 
Ms.Zoe said:
First, I don't like your words "you should know it better." Maybe, I am sensitive here but it sounds like you are doubting or questioning my knowledge of Y's news. Anyways, these are your words, I would like to see evidences (news). But again news are sometimes unreliable as well.
 
 

Ms.Zoe

.: Lady Huo :.
Wow hold it right there! When exactly did I say "I don't want to believe it (the news) also?" Just because I said news are unreliable as well does not mean I was referring to any particular news, I was referring to news in general. You know, you could put news link in spoiler tab. But wait you could not because there is no such news haha.

Readers, please excuse me for being off topic here.

Step said:
You want to see the news and you dont wanna believe it also. Does not make any sense to me as you will not believe. If you want search in sugar daily. They just translate from Thai to Eng. You can rely on that. And I'm sorry for that words. I did not question you or doubt you. But I thought you knew as you follow Yaya.
 
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Ninja007

sarNie Adult
Someone sent me the link.  So I'm here.  I didn't read any comment because I'm busy with other things.  However, I just want to mention that Kim & Yaya both said they are best friend.  If you're trying to defending your idol by attacking her best friend, that's crazy (it goes both way).  Both of them came out many times to defend each other.  They won't be happy if they know their best friend is being attacked because of some misunderstanding by fans.  
 
And for Yaya fan who said that Kim's fan went to attack Yaya.  You might had been misunderstanding.  I snoop into every Kim fan page.  NOBODY ever attack Yaya.  Actually, they really like it when Kim is with Yaya.  In fact, some of Kim page's admins are also a fan of Yaya.  Those rude comments on youtube and IG came from anti-fan, who tried to start fan war.  Same thing happened with Pratricia & Taew & even Nadech's mother.  Those nameless group of anti (which is probably anti-fan against Yaya) went around and start fan war with other stars (even with Nadech fanclub).  Don't fall into the trap and being used by them.  If you dislike Kim because of other reason, it's your right to do so.  However, if you dislike KIm because you're being used by those anti, that's just too bad. 
 
Both Mark, Yaya, Kim and Nadech are professional actor/actress.  They will be pairing with many different actor and actress.  Please be open-mind and support to their co-stars.
 
As for Kim's fan, thank you for defending Kim.  However, haters will hate, regardless of reasoning.  There is no need to waste energy on them.  There are better things to do to support Kim.  Kim has nothing to do with this thread.  I hope nobody bring up Kim's name here for comparison any further.  Thank you.
 
cr: BanKimmyyaya IG
http://instagram.com/p/nGOOoeruFM/
 
 

cecilia

Staff member
My apologies for locking the topic without an explanation earlier (locked it to avoid more heated conversation). I was at work and was unable to read the full scoop. I went back to read what has been posted and notice that a lot of the points made are just assumptions, observation and conclusion of whatever we want to make out of their characteristics. Therefore, whatever we say to each other about our favorites will not settle in the way we want it to be. So, pushing all those unsettle feelings aside, I'm going to open this topic for further discussion. Please try to keep all conversation as close to topic as you can. Happy chatting! 
 
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