What you said wasn't offensive so I wasn't the least bit offended. I also don't see NY as untouchables, I just personally hold them to a higher regard than other Thai celebrities that I know of - so feel free to criticise them. I just needed confirmation in terms of Pantip because I've always thought NY fc presence on there is pretty much non-existent & has been for a while now, as well as the fact that there is also a thread on there with criticisms about LR. I was also only just asking because there are ch7 fan accounts also throwing shade & after reading KhoOnxNouxWanxJai's comment, it's clear that shade coming from both sides is just making this situation a whole mess when it doesn't need to be. I'll do more digging like you recommended. There have been some NY fc who threw shade at Nadech's co-stars in the past but it seems that they have grown up as I haven't heard of any problems with Matt & I hope it stays that way. There are definitely NY trolls lol but the one you were talking about in your previous comment wasn't one.