Phom Ruk Roy Adeed (Dida Vdo)

skies

sarNie Adult
I realize something while watching episode 2 with sub (raw version i am on episode 6) and i am kind of disgusted that woosen wanted to try to get tawanchai to be hers. i know that torfun is not his real cousin but its gross to know that torfun is woosen half sister. so its like woosen likes her half sister first cousin. gives me the chill and i know its common in asain culture but even if i see it in my asian eyes i still think it is gross.
lol....it's kind of disturb me too....but then tawanchai and tor fun are falling for each other and that's kind of disturbing too....cause even if they don't know that they're not cousins....they think they are so for them to even think about falling in love with the other is blahhhhh....
anyways, there seems to be a lot of ignorances in this series.....but we're all enjoying it righttttt?????? :D
 

ployathina

sarNie Egg
I kinda disagree. Deuan is plain stupid. Still, she didn't even check their ages. One, Torfan is older than Woonsen, she didn't even ask for her bday. There are several common sense hints that would make Torfan her daughter.

Deuan has always been stupid.

She let Torfan fooled her twice. She is too trusting and that's really annoying and unrealistic.

Why would Woonsen feel betrayed, if that was me, I would want a DNA test. It's better to know the truth. Deuan should be suspicious if Woonsen didn't want a DNA test. Because people who lie about their identity and try to get into a rich family never want a DNA test. If they did, the truth will come out. Of course, Deuan is a stupid character who doesn't use her brain very well.
I'm not saying that Woonsen herself would feel betrayed, I'm thinking in Duean's point of view that she probably feels that Woonsen would feel betrayed. Duean's letting her love for her daughter overtake her common sense.

I'm sure that in the back of her mind she doesn't believe that Woonsen is her daughter.... Even her husband is skeptical. I think Woonsen is only a little younger than Torfun, because from what I got from the show was that they're both 18. They both just recently finished grade 12.

Deuan did talk to her husband and she did ask that why is it that both of them were raised by the same people, yet they are totally different.

I agree that Deuan isn't the brightest, but I understand why she doesn't question the things that are going on. I feel bad for her though, she's going through a lot, and to find out that her estranged "daughter" is a greedy person, doesn't make it better.
 

thuynmt

sarNie Fansubber
I'm not saying that Woonsen herself would feel betrayed, I'm thinking in Duean's point of view that she probably feels that Woonsen would feel betrayed. Duean's letting her love for her daughter overtake her common sense.

I'm sure that in the back of her mind she doesn't believe that Woonsen is her daughter.... Even her husband is skeptical. I think Woonsen is only a little younger than Torfun, because from what I got from the show was that they're both 18. They both just recently finished grade 12.

Deuan did talk to her husband and she did ask that why is it that both of them were raised by the same people, yet they are totally different.

I agree that Deuan isn't the brightest, but I understand why she doesn't question the things that are going on. I feel bad for her though, she's going through a lot, and to find out that her estranged "daughter" is a greedy person, doesn't make it better.
Yeah, I have the same thoughts with you. Deun felt guilty to be suspicious of Woosen. It's just like how your Mom think you're lying, but she didn't question you any further because it might hurt your feelings. She afraid she might be wrong of her suspicious, and the relationship between the mother and the daughter won't be good.
 

ployathina

sarNie Egg
I think Duern probably believes that Woonsen is her daughter because her daughter is supposed to be younger than Wanaa's supposed heir to Sidmantra. The only thing the script writer went back on is the fact that Duern knows Wanaa had a miscarriage since they were "friends" back then, so she should've known that Torfun is not the heir to Sidmantra but still she didn't question that fact.

But like fun4fun said, a lakorn is a lakorn lol.
Well, don't forget that Tawan-Chai's grandfather, father, and uncle did not die until recently. To Duean it's possible that his uncle had another wife.
 

fun

Expired Sarnie
lol....it's kind of disturb me too....but then tawanchai and tor fun are falling for each other and that's kind of disturbing too....cause even if they don't know that they're not cousins....they think they are so for them to even think about falling in love with the other is blahhhhh....
anyways, there seems to be a lot of ignorances in this series.....but we're all enjoying it righttttt?????? :D
i know. even though they are not real cousins but the fact that they think they are and at the same time falling in love.

yep i know that when watching any lakorn or other drama, there will always be flaws.
 

Maya_Fantasy

sarNie Oldmaid
OK I have to put something in Duern's defence for the sake of the arguement :p :loool:

Duern doesn't really want anything from the very first episode until now, she only want her daughter back, and she doesn't care about money or who trick her for her money as long as they gave her news of her daughter. To her, having find her daughter is the only mission and nothing else matter. She when Wanna said Woonsen is her daughter, that should be the end of her story. But yes she did accept Woonsen right away with no question asks, well that is because that is her characters(character as in her charactistic, not lakorn character ok lol), like at the first episode, TorFun lied to her and took off with the money, she didn't get mad, but instead she told TorFun to find her daughter for her. That right there should show that nothing matters to her.
But when she did found her daughter, you can't really said she's 'dumb' or ignorant because she did question anything, well that is the type of a person she is. She doesn't seems like she question much, but all of suddenly she gets her daughter back and she has been waiting 18 years for, and then she started to question, then that would be so out of her character. Different peoples do different things and on their own pace, but eventually they will see the different and will start to question it too, just have to give them time to adjusted. Because now the only right thing at the moment for her is to be happy.
Yet even thought it seems she accepted Woonsen and doesn't come right out and questions, but she does ask or sneak around and started to question but in her slow pace manners. Woonsen also told her lied that she got beats up and such, so what is she(Deurn) to do other than accept her so call daughter's words, because it seems logic that someone that is not your real mom would not love you. So she can't accuse Woonsen of lieing without prove, plus Woonsen knew she is not the real daughter, she will manipulated the situations like she did act on few occasion so far. But then didn't you guys seen in episode 10 she started to listen and ask Lookchin? She started to question now, because her happy moment is over, now is time to think logic and sneaking around questions peoples. :D
OK that is my defence for Duern, so we can see both sides of the coin. :lol: lolz.
 

fun

Expired Sarnie
well i am not near epi 10 yet.

i see that this can go both ways, see that is why i am always usually in the middle of debate.
 

ployathina

sarNie Egg
I agree with you completely. I pity her more than anything. Her daughter's special to her. Don't forget that Torfun is fatherless also, I don't remember what happened if her father left or died. But her daughter is the most important thing in her life.
 

thuynmt

sarNie Fansubber
I'm no where near Episode 10 either. I'm stuck at Episode 2. lol It would be a while before I get to watch Episode 10.
 

fun

Expired Sarnie
duern could have told the simantra family that wanna had a miscarriaged. also it would have also click in her head, "who daughter is torfun then" if woosen is her daughter where does torfun come from when knowing wanna had a miscarriaged.
 

Maya_Fantasy

sarNie Oldmaid
lol....it's kind of disturb me too....but then tawanchai and tor fun are falling for each other and that's kind of disturbing too....cause even if they don't know that they're not cousins....they think they are so for them to even think about falling in love with the other is blahhhhh....
anyways, there seems to be a lot of ignorances in this series.....but we're all enjoying it righttttt?????? :D
Hey loves has no boudary, and see no reason, that is why they said "love is blind". :loool: So here I come to rescued Tawanchai and Torfun on this LOL... yes they know they are cousin, but the heart knows only love, and throw any reasons out the windows. They falling for each others because, first, they didn't grew up together and second their cousin status to them it's on paper only, thirdly, the heart probably knew they are not really related, so the hearts falls quick, but then their mind take control and telling them that they are related, so stay back. That is why they are so tormented, they have heart and mind conflicted. :lol:

Some sample... when twin(boy and girl) separated at birth, met up later in life, they met and have a close feelings for one another, they didn't know that their closeness and feelings is just between sibling, but thought was love instead. So this lakorn does make sense in away, it's just doesn't happen often, but I'm sure it does happen in this World somewhere. ;) LOL
 

thuynmt

sarNie Fansubber
so that means youre the subber not the translator.
Yes, I don't understand Thai, so I depend on Maya_Fantasy, Stardust, KaylaC, and Pang for helping me translating this lakorn.
 

Maya_Fantasy

sarNie Oldmaid
I'm no where near Episode 10 either. I'm stuck at Episode 2. lol It would be a while before I get to watch Episode 10.
:D hehehehe, I started to work on more translating for you, but so tired today, so I stop and join you guys here. ;)

Skie, you still want me to continue with the rest from where I left of, and you still subbing right? Or you want me to give the rest to Thuynmt and let her do the rest? :D Let me know what both of you want ok... or I send a copy each to both that would be fine too. :lol:
 

fun

Expired Sarnie
maya youre funny.

as long as they didnt do the deed while not knowing theyre not real cousin.

have any read flowers in the attic. i almost died from reading it. the brother grew sexually feeling for her sister. the book is super wicked. i dont want to give away so much but i think 3-4 siblings were locked up in the attic for (find out why they were locked up by reading it yourself). and the older brother grew sexually feelings for his younger sister and so they had sex knowing that theyre siblings. seriously got to read the book, it is so wicked and dark.
 

Maya_Fantasy

sarNie Oldmaid
duern could have told the simantra family that wanna had a miscarriaged. also it would have also click in her head, "who daughter is torfun then" if woosen is her daughter where does torfun come from when knowing wanna had a miscarriaged.

Well it has been after 18+ years, she must have forgotten and slipped her mind at the moment. But I'm sure ... and if the writer for this lakorn is not that dumb, they probably will let her remember in the future episode. We'll just have to wait and see where they are taking us. For now I'm just hoping they haven't forgot that Nokyoong tricks Tawanchai off 500,000,000B. So they writer better not forget that and let us know what happen with that money. :loool:
 

Maya_Fantasy

sarNie Oldmaid
maya youre funny.

as long as they didnt do the deed while not knowing theyre not real cousin.

have any read flowers in the attic. i almost died from reading it. the brother grew sexually feeling for her sister. the book is super wicked. i dont want to give away so much but i think 3-4 siblings were locked up in the attic for (find out why they were locked up by reading it yourself). and the older brother grew sexually feelings for his younger sister and so they had sex knowing that theyre siblings. seriously got to read the book, it is so wicked and dark.
:lol: LOL :loool:

Well nowaday we don't really have to go read books/novel on those kind of things... sick peoples in our society todays do it to their own kind without think twice about it :arrg: :( We live in a sick and sad World, all these lakorn it's just a reflections of our crazy World.
 
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